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how to tie the Daisy Dick harness

sunshinelove — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 06:48:08 GMT

I made a pretty:

http://sunshinegypsy.com/2009/10/19/the-daisy-dick-strap-onstrap-off-rope-harness/

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Tetruss Portable, Lightweight Suspension Bondage Rig - 20% OFF thru July 31st

Galen — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:47:56 GMT

I have 3 Tetruss portable lightweight free-standing suspension bondage rigs
to move out this month at 20% OFF before a new batch of inventory arrives...

sale ends either way 7/31/09

see the details at www.Tetruss.com

Contact me if you have any questions.

Summer regards,

Galen
Ships fom Portland

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Rope Classes in Los Angeles?

1000words — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 01:45:22 GMT

Anyone know of any rope classes in Los Angeles they recommend?

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See you over on Fetlife.com

Jay — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:38:25 GMT

Hi all,

For those (relatively few) of you who don't know yet, traffic has moved over to a site where we are actively welcomed, as opposed to here where we are at best grudgingly tolerated. I'm talking about, of course, Fetlife.com. I'm almost entirely over there now and having a ball. There are a number of excellent rope groups there. Nowadays I don't get onto Tribe so much as once a week, and then only briefly.

Best,

Jay

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Question about the infamous Ass Hook

DukeSF — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 01:02:59 GMT

Hi All,

I have been shopping around for an ass kook to add to my toy bag and noticed a few differences in design. I am particularly interested in the Classic "Tail Hook" found on the Rainbow Ropes web site. What I have noticed in shopping around is that the classic design varies from a 5' insertable length (as found on the item at JT Stockroom) to a slightly shorter length (As seen in the product picture on the Rainbow ropes site). My Questions are:

For all of you faithful ass hook users:
- Who is the original purveyor of the Ass Hook, or more the point, who makes the highest quality hook?
- Since my partner is on the petite side, does anyone make a hook that has a shorter insertable length (with no ball on the end)?
- For those who have purchased a hook, classic or otherwise, what are your thoughts and opinions on the different designs on the market? (and yes I already know that they are not meant for weight bearing. My intent for use is more along the lines of non weight bearing predicament bondage.)

Thank you in advance

Duke

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Insider Info: Midori's Rope Bondage Dojo Jan 17-18 San Francisco

Midori — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 01:07:36 GMT

Just a little heads up to the folks here. I know that time to plan is
important...
Midori's Rope Bondage Dojo (R) will be coming up in San Francisco on January
17-18, 2009.
16+ hours of intensive and a party...
The registration will open the first week of December.
Space limited to 28 students.
You'll find curriculum and other useful info at www.RopeDojo.com

= = = =

Thanks!

Midori

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Hello Fetlife!

Jay — Sun, 05 Oct 2008 23:29:49 GMT

Well, what a refreshing change. After years of "my kind" being grudgingly tolerated here on Tribe and/or summarily having our groups "vanish" (along with the email account of the group owner) over on Yahoo, there is _finally_ a place where we kinksters can truly be ourselves and be truly welcomed. I'm talking about www.fetlife.com. There are literally hundreds of kinksters that i know who are already over there, hanging out in a welcoming and vibrant community.

Folks, if you're way too damn tired of being "tolerated" (at best) by other social networking sites, please allow me to encourage you to get a fetlife account post-haste. I can be found over the as jay_wiseman Feel free to send me a friend request.

Best regards,

Jay

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Journeyman III Academy class of 2008 graduation ceremony

wainskote — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 06:34:34 GMT

Journeyman III Academy class of 2008 graduation ceremony

You are cordially invited to the graduation of the cadets of the 2008 Journeyman III Academy. Please join us as we celebrate the continuation of our journey. No RSVP is necessary.

We are honored by our guest speakers:
Master Mike Aylett
Master Skip Chasey
VG Smith & Sarah Auberon

Graduation will commence at 2:00 pm on Sunday, October 19th at The Citadel, 1277 Mission St in San Francisco.

Reception for the graduates following at Chaps II, 1225 Folsom between 8th and 9th, original site of the Ramrod.

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help get the Two Knotty Boys' youtube account reinstated (again)

sunshinelove — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 05:56:16 GMT

Stupid YouTube kicked them off again for imaginary TOS violations. Sign the petition:

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/tkbyoutube

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my freaks & geeks guide to BM08

sunshinelove — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:54:31 GMT

These aren't all kinky, and there might be others, but this is what I found going down on the playa this year that perked my pervy interest.

A new camp this year worth noting is Suspense Camp out of Seattle!

B.E.D. Bureau of Erotic Discourse
BRC-BED : B.E.D (Bureau of erotic discourse)
The Booby Bar a & 3:00
http://www.bureauoferoticdiscourse.org/

Circus Boot Camp
Come earn your clown nose by participating in Circus Boot Camp! We'll teach you to juggle, unicycle, hoop, slack line, trapeze, crack a whip and other circus-inspired arts.
http://www.curiouslife.net/circusbootcamp/

Camp CONTACT
We are dedicated to the physical exploration of bodies in contact, AKA the art of Contact Improvisation. We offer daily workshops for all levels (Fundamentals of Contact plus more advanced classes) as well as hosting the morning contact jam in Center Camp.
http://campcontact.org/burningcontact

Den of Iniquity 3:00 and allante
The Den for leather and Goth social, dance and play activities. A place for people with interests in the practice and learning about select aspects of bondage and sm play. Some activities are afternoon presentations, Goth Dance party Monday and Friday nights and a leather play party Wednesday night.

Deviant Playground 9:00 Allante Portal
DP Camp (yes, that's intentional) is designed to give adults a chance to relive their youth through games, activities, and varieties of play. Come visit our bar, clubhouse, and playground! Look for us in the what/when/where.

Fu*king Unicorn Camp
In our American Dreams we see Unicorns from all corners of the Unicorn Universe coming together to frolick in rainbow waterfalls, to gallop about freely, and to hump! Come by our camp for a "Mystical Creatures Party","Floating or Fucking Unicorns" picture sessions and other magical happenings!

Fusion Valley has an internet cafe and bondage room .... you can find them near the 3:00 plaza... they are usually situated by bad idea theatre

Gedi Prime
We play with fire, do tricks for treats, take pictures of just about everything, then laugh some more. Stop on by & take a look at the last 8 years of good times in the Gallery of Conciousness-American Dream Style of course! 3 giant burn barrels and tons of fire art will keep ya warm all night long!

Math Camp @ Group W
Math Camp, a safe place for Mathematics. A small, social camp, we offer a place to drink and derive! Home of the Fabulous Electric Cupcakes. Purveyors of crunchy snacks. Temporary Tattoos. The Best Friday Morning Sunrise Cocktail Party on the Playa.
URL: http://www.mathcamp.us

Mischief Camp
Instant access to all that is going on around BRC 24/7. Check out our web cam Kiosks fed from our vast network of wireless webcams placed throughout BRC. Come play shocking reaction games, skill games and if you dare, try to beat the lie detectors shocking consequences. A little mischief awaits!

OMCC
OMCC is a place for the object manipulation community to come together on playa. OMCC runs juggling and spinning workshops all week long, so stop by and brush up on your poi, staff, hoop, meteor, club, ball, box, yo-yo, top, diabolo, devil stick, shaker cup, shake yer butt skills.
URL: http://tribes.tribe.net/omcc

Orgasmateria Pleasure Lab
The Orgasmateria Pleasure Lab is a fem-centered, sex-positive sensual exploratorium dedicated to expanding the frontiers of the Pleasurescape. Stimulating workshops & activites strip away inhibitions and deepen indulgence. Pink & sparkly, soft-kink environment welcomes the kinkurious and the daring. As always, the Orgasmateria will be nestled in the middle of Asylum Village again this year.
URL: http://www.orgasmateria.com
http://www.princessreformschool.com/orgasmateria.htm

Our Lady of Schlongs Meat Inspection Center
Usually out on the edge between 4:00 and 5:00.
Great guys, really good bar, fabulous décor.

The Pepper Conduit
We are the Pepper Conduit, flying both the rainbow flag and its black and blue cousin. Experienced Burners (and one sacrifical virgin), unite in the twin American dreams of alternative energy and cheerful sexuality. Pick up some free hemp bondage rope, or stay to try it out!
http://pepperconduit.spaces.live.com/default.aspxx

"Playfully Yours"
"Playfully Yours" is a dungeonous experiance, our dungeonmaster will instruct and share the pleasures of S&M play in our fully equipped dungeon, you can also interact with others, under his supervision or instruction. An outside chain web is available. Experienced instruction available.

PolyParadise 7:30 & allante
PolyParadise has been influencing the Hearts & Minds and Washing the Bodies of Playa Citizens from '2:00 - 10:00' for the past 10 years.
We are a group of Polyamorists seeking to live our dreams, and this camp is one manifestation of that. Polyamory involves openness to multiple loving relationships, with honesty among all partners.
www.polyparadise.com

Silicon Village 6:30 and dart
Silicon Village including sub theme-camps from the San Francisco South Bay
URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SiliconVillage/

Safer Sex Camp
Forgot your kit? Your Playa source for Safer Sex Kits - all your safer sex needs - condoms, lube, gloves, plastic-wrap dams. All Kits are free, not for sale, not for barter. Look for Outpost Bags. Distributors wanted; all orientations welcome. Daily events. See What When Where for details.

Slutgarden 9:00 and fairlane
Hey you in the khakis and the fanny pack, everyone else thinks you're a loser but Slutgarden knows you want to fly your freak flag high. Our sluts provide the mirrors, the sauce, the glam and DJ Cockstorm! You provide the seed.
Monday through Thursday from 7:00 pm to 9:00 pm, get glammed up, shake your ass and strut your stuff! Friday from 1:00 to 3:00 get painted and lubed (uh, with beverages) for the Critical Tits Parade!
URL: www.myspace.com/slutgarden2008

Sore Nipple Camp
Come spin the wheel of enjoyment (maybe), ride the Sibian, have a drink and enjoy some games. Try to beat last years record of 9 C.D.'s on your nipple.(We will supply the ice) Get a tramp stamp, or come by to get a flogging. Beware!!! We are the people that your parents warned you about.

StiffyLube / Penetration Village
Penetration Village welcomes GLBT campers who support the adventurous, spirited and sex-positive playground that surrounds our infamous tents. Stiffylube: The Original & Only Authorized Cocksucking Establishment on the Playa!
URL: www.getingetoffgetout.com/

Strip Jeopardy
For $500, Third time's a charm for this crazy battle of wits, tits and naughty bits. The game that punishes you and rewards the rest of the world for your ignorance. Four shows, Tues, Wed, Thurs, Fri, at 5pm. Show up an hour early if you want to play. Layering is okay.

Space Camp
Need some Space? We have an infinite supply! Come by Space Camp where Spaced Scientists will provide you with virtual knowledge, Instant Relaxation(tm) and the answers to all those Burning questions about UFO's, space men and even space people.

Suspense Camp
Suspense Camp is dedicated to American-style full-suspension bondage: part kinetic art, part thrill ride, part endorphin rush. Our crew of expert riggers will put on public performances in a number of different styles as well as teaching workshops for all levels and offering bondage rides.
URL: www.suspensecamp.com

Temple of Atonement
www.templeofatonement.org/hunger.html

The Time Colony
The Historical Preenactment Society welcomes all appreciators of science and the mysteries and wonders of past and future. Here Victorian-aged gentiles may drink along side space robots, etc., and time travelers of any era are welcome to relax and enjoy the moment.
URL: http://www.timecolony.org

Two Lanterns Camp
Get hooked-up to your current playa-mate with an Unofficial Playa Civil Union (includes an official-looking document) in the Chapel of Liberty. Hate your playa-mate? Get a Black Rock Temporary Divorce, good until Labor Day. Lady Lib towers over us and be sure to obey our four-way traffic signal.
URL: http://www.ebold.com/~bobo/

Ultra Stunt Danger Academy
http://ultrastuntdangeracademy.com/

Unicornios Satanicos
Wouldn't Satanism be a lot better if it had more pink? Unicornios Satanicos is a gay-friendly Satanic ministry designed to put the fun back in heresy. Take a bounce on our pink fuzzy crucifix too!
URL: http://groups.google.com/group/GayFriendlyGasStationOfSatan

Wedding Camp (aka Heavenly Swing)
Come spin the Wheel-o-Wedding; let chaos be your wedding planner: be it Catholic, Moonie or Elvis; walk down the aisle with that American Dream of yours! No partner? Already hitched? No problem! If it moves, you can marry it. Uncle Hal's Quickie Divorces: open as long as life ain't perfect.

ePlaya
General Information
http://eplaya.burningman.com/index.php?sid=78d7f06c3576482c1794c005bb44d30b

ePlaya
2008 Theme Camps Forum
http://eplaya.burningman.com/viewforum.php?f=107

Full list of Theme Camps:
http://www.burningman.com/themecamps/08_camp_vill_number.html

Theme Camp Locations:
http://whereareyoucamping.com/
http://www.burningman.com/themecamps/placement08.html

Please forgive the cross postings - I'm doing this by request. I myself will be camping with Sage Camp, exact location as yet unknown.

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Who's going to Shibaricon?

Jay — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:13:37 GMT

So, who will be there this year? It will be my first time.

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Women only rope Social with the Two Knotty Boys 8/3

Madame Butterfly — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:59:11 GMT

Venus' Playground, the Women's area at The Folsom Street Fair is presenting a Sunday afternoon of rope bondage for Women only.

The Citadel
Sunday 8/3
2-6pm
$5 only

The Two Knotty Boys will present a demo with two Lovely models and Madame Butterfly will give lessons in basic bondage (bring your rope!).
There will refreshments and music.
Please join us for an afternoon of entertainment and tying up the person next to you!

Venus' Playground welcomes all who identify as women in the Past, Present and Future.

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How to tie Rope Panties by TKB

JayDee — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:39:54 GMT

The following shows how to combine a Trinity Knot and a Snake Weaved
rope to create a clean looking pair of rope panties.

A decorative way to complement a chest harness or a pair of arm
gauntlets, the "Rope Panty" was initially illustrated in our first
book.

Below is a link to the first video illustration of the tie.

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzJJH0BIAfI&fmt=18

Hope you enjoy,

JD ~ TKB

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Two Knotty Boys - Tie of the Week!

JayDee — Sun, 29 Jun 2008 01:12:33 GMT

The following is a deceivingly simply piece that can be used to inhibit the movement of the wrists and hands.

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLM1ARYvUYE&fmt=18

Called “The Claw”, the tie functionally restricts a person’s lower arms while allowing the use of their shoulders.

Massively frustrating for the person tied, the piece can also be used to inhibit the ability to push off the floor or keep another from pressing closer.

Be sure to let us know what you think!

JD ~ TKB

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Untreated Hemp or Jute Rope in San Francisco Wanted

Terrance — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 07:06:47 GMT

Does anybody know of a good place to buy UNTREATED hemp or jute rope here in San
Francisco? (6mm) I will be using it for Shibari/Kinbaku type bondage. I've
checked several hardware stores. I'm anxious to start hand treating
the rope myself.

from what i understand, hemp rope is more commonly used for
shibari/kinbaku in the west, while jute is more commonly used in japan.

"Interestingly, I have recently learnt that 'Japanese hemp' is a
misonomer as, apparently, nobody uses hemp rope in Japan. The Japanese language does not
differentiate between jute and hemp and it is merely a quirk of on-line dictionaries that
first component of Asanawa, Asa has been translated as hemp rather than jute (nawa meaning rope)
Source: TokyoBound"

http://www.esinem.com/main-ropesales.htm

anyway, i would love to hear what others think about this jute vs. hemp
issue. either way, i'd like to find some untreated jute OR hemp, but have not found a place
for either here in san francisco.

if anybody could direct me to a source, i would really appreciate any help.

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Rope work and knots

mutumbawarrior — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 08:32:46 GMT

Hiya all'

Can someone point us in the direction to of where we can learn of all these amazing knots' that tie so beautifuly'

Bliss

Motumba

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What is too risky for you?

Sophia_Sky — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 23:25:14 GMT

Recent threads have me wondering where the lines of "too dangerous" are drawn and how that is determined. After the mishap in SF where a suspension point failed and a person was seriously injured, I took a hard look at what I do as an aerialist and rope suspension performer. Death is a possible direct result from either of these activities. Now, there are things I do that mitigate those dangers, but not completely. I decided that I can accept that as a risk.

Specifically, I am wondering what type of bondage activities do you, dear reader, consider too risky to engage in. Then tell me why you won't do it.

I am NOT interested in answers like "I won't suspend someone by the neck." I am interested in answers along the lines of " I won't do inverted suspension because of the possible neck and head injuries."

I'll go first:.
I will not do any combination of bondage and submersion of my body, especially my head in any kind of liquid. As a former competitive swimmer, the psychological ramifications would be overwhelming for me, not to mention the obvious physical risks of the bottom not being able to move about in the water to assure their own air supply.

~Sophia

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Murder charges in death of son tied to tree

Jay — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 01:03:47 GMT

NC couple face murder in death of son tied to tree
By MIKE BAKER – 6 hours ago

RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — A couple accused of tying their 13-year-old son to a tree for two nights to punish him for disobedience has been charged with murder in his death, authorities said Friday.

Brice Brian McMillan, 41, of Macclesfield, told a deputy that the child was being disobedient and was forced to sleep outside Tuesday while tied to a tree, the Edgecombe County Sheriff's Office said. The teenager was released Wednesday morning but again tied up that night for bad behavior, authorities said.

The boy was left tied to the tree until the following afternoon when his stepmother found him unresponsive, Sheriff James Knight said. Knight said authorities believe the boy was bound to the tree with plastic ties and possibly other kinds of material.

"An adult couldn't get out of those," he said.

Temperatures in the area rose to above 90 degrees on Thursday afternoon, with a low of 73, according to the National Weather Service. Knight would not discuss any details on the cause of death, saying an autopsy was being conducted at the state chief medical examiner's office in Chapel Hill.

The sheriff also didn't have details on why the boy was being punished, although he said deputies were investigating whether he had run away.

Dwight Jefferson, an emergency responder with Pinetops Rescue Squad who was first on the scene, said he did not know the cause of the child's death.

"What we found was a 13-year-old laying on the ground — CPR being done by his father," Jefferson said. "Then we took over."

Knight said the boy was taken to a local hospital where he was pronounced dead.

McMillan and Sandra Elizabeth McMillan, 36, also have been charged with felony child abuse. Two other children at the home, ages 7 and 9, have been placed in the custody of the Department of Social Services, authorities said. Knight said he does not know of any past allegations of child abuse in the family.

He also said he could not release the name of the boy.

The McMillans are being held in the Edgecombe County Detention Center under no bond and are scheduled for a first appearance in court Monday. The sheriff's office said they did not know if the couple had an attorney.

Macclesfield is about 90 miles east of Durham.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gaONsLOskXazSdPmecD_LtJLtwzgD919C1QO2

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How ti Tie a Panel Knot by TKB!

JayDee — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 20:08:43 GMT

We recently created a new piece we’re calling the Rope Muzzle. Requiring a woven panel of rope to cover the mouth, the piece will be taught at a later time. In anticipation of that lesson, we present the following.

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cZ7n2JkUQw

JD of TKB

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How to Tie Pendent Knots by TKB!

JayDee — Sat, 07 Jun 2008 20:15:50 GMT

The following shows how to create a double and a quadruple looped pendent knots.

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwpntaCIfU8

More truthfully a weaving technique applied two ways; these knots make beautiful additions to rope necklaces and bracelets. Still, the Celtic imagery they inspire could also be incorporated into body harnesses and decorative ties.

JD of TKB

p.s. This marks our 75th Video!

When time provides be sure to check them out…

YouTube (64): http://www.youtube.com/2KnottyBoys
RopeRigger (11): http://www.roperigger.com/code/videos

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The international Kinky festival of Montreal. 7 to 10 August

Dunter — Wed, 21 May 2008 02:32:49 GMT

I know, most of you are very far from Montreal, ---> Quebec ---> Canada :-)

But I am pround to invite you for this event.

We will get some workshop from Lew Reubens, basic bondage and one on suspention.
I will try to provide one on Domination by presure point.

But this event is also 2 Big party.
To get more info. http://kinkyfestival.com/

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Is a video worth 30,000 words per second?

westcounty — Sat, 10 May 2008 22:19:10 GMT

Or at least 300kbps?

Regardless, I made a promo video for the live shows that I produce.

http://tinyurl.com/6hn78j

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Chicago scene

Sun, 11 May 2008 06:48:13 GMT

Dear ShibariCon veterans (and anyone else who is familiar with the BDSM scene in Chicago):

Do you have a favorite kink shop in Chicago? I would enjoy hearing your recommendations for BDSM-toy or fetish-fashion retailers in the Chicago area that you think are worth visiting. Thank you in advance!

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Inverted suspension. what's the limiting factor?

Jay — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:15:00 GMT

Hi all,

Just out of curiosity, in putting someone in full inverted suspension, what do you find to be the longest someone can be kept that way, and what causes them to want/need to be taken down?

Best,

Jay

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How to Make Rope by TKB!

JayDee — Sat, 03 May 2008 03:31:27 GMT

Making rope with the natural fibers of Douglas Iris (Iris douglasiana) by Two Knotty Boys.

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9msHVa77kcE

We're especially proud of this video. In essence we're showing you how to perform a lost art—an art that should never be forgotten.

JD of TKB

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Unsafe Rope

sweetmanstrongman — Sun, 06 Jan 2008 17:31:29 GMT

Ok, I'm going to stir it up now but here it goes. A little background. I was a boat builder, sailmaker, and professional rigger of sailboats including ocean racing yachts. I understand the strength of materials and how those strengths are deminished by angle of force, knots, swedgings, condition etc. I was also taught rock climbing by a guy who was rated sixth in the world at the time. I see lots of discussion about hardwear but I feel strongly that the rope that is used and how it is used poses a much greater risk of serious injury than does the hardwear I see being used. While working as a DM I have observed the use of severely compromised rope in full suspension by big names in the local scene. Granted if there is enough redundancy in a harness you can get away with a lot. I have also onserved these harnesses being suported by single point light line with no redundancy and then the subject hoisted 15 feet into the air on a slow chain hoist well out of reach of any help if one of these single points failed.
In rock climbing, if there is any sign of wear on the rope it is taken out of use for climbing. This wear is normally caused by abrasion in rock climbing. The lay, or tightness of the brade have a lot to do with the strength of the rope. Nylon rope that has been repeatedly washed and is now nice and fluffy is only a fraction of its original strength. Natural rope that has been softened by running it over a hard edge is much weaker than its design specs. There is no way of calculating the strength of these soften materials. Using any compromised or light line with less than a three fold redundancy (knotted on each end) is asking for trouble. When I began rock climbing we didn't have any fancy web harnesses. We would take 1/4' manilla rope and tye it around our waist with a square knot and repeat until we had at least four bands giving is a redundancy of four. Ok, lets hear some opinions.

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Decorative Overhand Knots by TKB

JayDee — Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:45:42 GMT

The following are two elegantly simple overhand knots based upon the over-under weaving technique.

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgzG3DjVOWo

Given the fact that over-under weaving is the foundation of most knots, it’s our hope that your familiarity with the technique will help you along during the following demonstrations.

Hope you Enjoy,

JD of TKB

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April 29 SF, CA - Partial suspension class

westcounty — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:24:01 GMT

Take this class and find out how to make your partner feel helpless and vulnerable, quickly and safely.

http://tiedoutwest.com/2008/02/11/need-for-speed

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Wife charged in husband's bondage death

Jay — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:52:11 GMT

Woman charged with bondage death of husband

Associated Press
Originally published 06:32 a.m., April 23, 2008
Updated 06:32 a.m., April 23, 2008

COLUMBIA, Tenn. — A Maury County woman has been
charged with reckless homicide for what her attorney
says was the accidental asphyxiation of her husband
after he consented to be bound and gagged.

"The whole family is upset with what occurred," Samuel
Patterson, an attorney representing 25-year-old
Rebecca Bargy, told Columbia newspaper The Daily
Herald. "We stand by the fact that this was an
accident."

According to the arrest warrant, Rebecca Bargy placed
duct tape over James Bargy's mouth and eyes, put a
ball gag in his mouth and then tied a bandage around
his head, leaving only his nostrils showing.

She also tied his hands and legs behind his back. She
then left him for 20 hours.

"Apparently, this was not the first time it had
happened," Maury County Sheriff's Detective Anthony
Bailey said of the bondage.

Authorities found the 29-year-old' s body around 4
p.m. Saturday. Rebecca Bargy faces up to 12 years in
prison if found guilty.

"The proof will show that James consented to this
being done to him and that he was an active
participant, " Patterson said.

But detectives told Nashville television station WTVF
Rebecca Bargy was having an affair with another man.

James Bargy's sister, Lisa Brady, wrote in an e-mail
to WTVF, "Rebecca has repeatedly engaged in
extramarital affairs over the last few months. She
made sure she got him out of the way so she could have
her single life again."

Rebecca Bargy has a bond hearing set for 8:30 a.m.
Wednesday in Mt. Pleasant. She has pleaded not guilty
to the charges.

http://www.knoxnews .com/news/ 2008/apr/ 23/maury- county-woman- charged-bondage- death-husband/

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Double Looped Knots by TKB

JayDee — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 03:48:43 GMT

A few months ago we showed you how to tie the Rabbit Knot. What we didn’t tell you at the time was that the Rabbit Knot is more a technique than a unique knot.

More specifically, the knot is the product of double loops woven to create the first stable step of a box knot.

Regardless of these technicalities, the double loop technique of knot tying can create a variety of novel iterations.

The following video shows two...

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nitZRyz6Zeg

Hope you enjoy,

JD of TKB

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A wee challenge.

Charles — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:03:25 GMT

Hello everyone:

I'm not a great knotter. In fact, I believe there are only a half dozen knots that I can tie consistently correct.

The major reason I'm involved with this tribe is to look for inspiration for a chain net dress I'm constructing for my step daughter. I will be silver toned chain which she will usually wear over on or the other of the black or purple velvet gowns she has already.

I could do it in simple diamonds from the neck to the ankles, but that would be fairly boring. So I'm looking for knots I can adapt to chain working and making a fairly tight mesh over the torso of the body.

However, on another forum where I'm also searching for inspiration, a question was asked which got my mind working on my jewelry problem from the other side. What about making (tying) a harness that uses the Chinese style rope buttons and loops to make a permanently tied harness that can be buttoned on in a few minutes and unbuttoned in a few minutes.

It occurred to me that many of us suffer from time pressures and having a quickly assumed or doffed harness might be ideal for some of the folk who want to engage in shibari but haven't the skill to accurately tie every time--especially some of the more complex knots.

That being the case I thought I would ask the experts to design some tied harnesses which can be buttoned on or off and post pics of their best designs in this thread.

I won't be trying to compete with you on this site as I know the poverty of my own rope skills, but I do look forward to seeing your (pun definitely intended) master-works.

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A New, Astonishingly Beautiful Knot by TKB!

JayDee — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:42:50 GMT

The “River Knot” is a beautiful knot on its own or as a center piece to a harness. Likely first discovered by another (although we are not sure), I stumbled across the knot after deciding to apply the weaving theory of a Trinity Knot to a finished Double Coin Knot. The results, we’re positive you’ll find, is a stunningly elegant knot that looks like a sun setting over a river, thus the name chosen for the piece.

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nErJ1DmmaA

For those who fancy themselves astute knot tiers, this is a knot for you!

It’s my new favorite! (smile)

JD ~ TKB

p.s. If anyone has seen this knot before, or better yet, knows a historic name for it, let us know. We’ll likely stick with “River Knot” for our purposes, but would like to reference what it is otherwise (historically) known as.

posted in Advanced Rope Bondage - 4 replies

Edges Needs Your Help

DonRush — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 06:48:31 GMT

Over the last two decades many public play spaces have flourished and died in the bay area. Edges was built with love in the tradition of the best of these. Now we face a crossroads. The building we occupy is for sale. Ali and Alex are not able to secure a loan to buy it themselves, and unless someone steps up to purchase it from within the community it will be sold to outsiders. IT IS possible the new owners would let us stay, but at this time we have no commitment. As a community, we not only want, but need the support of Each Of You to see this through.

If you know of anyone in a position and with the inclination to buy the building and continue to rent it to Edges, please have them call Alex immediately. In the interim here is the current plan:

In order to continue providing a space to the community, (at this physical location or another) Edges needs financial support from our greater community. Ali has maintained Edges with NO debt for the past two years, yet neither Ali nor Alex take funds from their endeavors with Edges, but rather put all excess back into the space itself. We need the community to take on this same go-give mentality.

Unfortunately Ali is in school full time, just started a new job and is about to begin her internship for her laboratory career; she simply does not have the time to manage this extra workload! Therefore, we are looking for volunteers to manage fundraising events in the next few weeks. We need a General Manager of Fundraising, and people to organize specific events, organize the membership drive, advertise and spread the word, and more!

Please call Alex directly with any ideas or your willingness to take on some of what needs to be done.

Thank you in advance for helping us save this wonderful asset to the community! Know that it is our intent to do everything possible to secure our current location, or ensure we have a new home for all of us!

Alex and Ali
408-496-1132

Zifra has offered to take all general inquiries and offers to help. Please contact her directly:
408-750-7858

We have a minimum of two months in which to raise fund to purchase the space or move! Show us and the community your support:

By committing yourself to visit the space at least ONCE a month, you will be helping us raise our funds. Encourage others online and through word of mouth to visit Edges' events.

If you will increase your membership to the red, blue and black membership levels, you will be contributingto this community endeavor and yourself. Your contributions will ensure that your own membership lasts!
If we have to close the door and are unable to reopen within 6 months, at least 50% of your increased membership will be returned!

Please visit Edges during a play party to increase your membership!
Membership level information can be found here: http://www.edges.biz/memberships.pdf

If the space is lost, these funds will allow Ali and Alex to secure a new space and move Edges to a new home. If the new landlord allows Edges to continue here, the funds will upgrade the space with showers, a full kitchen and the like.

We are committed to either remaining in our current home or moving! We do not plan to close our doors. Please join us in this committement and encourage others to help as well.

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How to Whip Rope Ends by TKB

JayDee — Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:47:04 GMT

Three methods shown by Two Knotty Boys.

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVU8qsCMcew

A part of our Fan Service Video Series.

JD ~ TKB

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How to Tie the Zip Snare!

JayDee — Tue, 01 Apr 2008 04:39:25 GMT

An adjustable loop that doesn't cinch by Two Knotty Boys.

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_sJLnKKBz4

We grant you permission to steal this video.

JD ~ TKB

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avoiding rope marks

sunshinelove — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:51:28 GMT

Personally, I kind of like rope marks, and so do most folks I play with. However, should someone be wanting to avoid obvious signs of what we've been up to, are there things that would be better at preventing marks than others? For example, I've noticed that hemp seems to leave much more significant marking than MFP. As far as suspension goes, does weight distribution or positioning make a difference? What about putting a cloth or padding next to the skin or just doing it over clothing?

posted in Advanced Rope Bondage - 6 replies

Overheard in the dungeon

patti — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 06:22:08 GMT

Overheard at Max's bondage workshop this weekend: "It's OK, I have my Wisemat under the bottom."

posted in Advanced Rope Bondage - 1 reply

Adult Symposium Open House

Fredwrogers — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 19:36:51 GMT

The Adult Symposium (www.adultsymposium.com), would like to invite everyone to a virtual open house on Sunday, March 23rd from 7-11pm EST. Stop by and pay us a visit, meet some new people and make some new friends.

Available for your use: dating, chat rooms, forums, on-site instant messaging, special interest groups, photo galleries, and more.

Looking forward to seeing you there: www.adultsymposium.com

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Conrad on the "two big guys" test

Jay — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:01:03 GMT

Hi all,

I was very impressed with Conrad's suggestions on how to lower someone in suspension bondage
(you can find that in the "EMS backboard" thread here.) so I thought I'd ask him about another matter
that I've been concerned about for quite some time. My question, and his reply (reprinted
of course, with his permission), are below. I gotta say, I'm again very impressed.

[My original query]

Hi Conrad,

Say, I have a question: A lot of people recommend, as you do, the "two big guys" load-testing of suspension gear before a likely much less heavy submissive is dangled from it. My question is this: how can one be fairly sure that such "shock-loading" of the suspension arrangement does not weaken it during the testing process, leaving it more prone to failure than it was?

[Conrad's reply]

Have you encountered the (physics, not psychology!) definitions of stress and strain? Stress is force applied, strain is actual deformation caused by the stress. Deformation is of two types, elastic and
non-elastic. The elastic happens first -- all materials show some of this, even glass and other things we consider brittle. Stress something within its elastic range, and it returns completely to its original shape and position. Stress it more than that, and it will yield in some lasting manner. "Malleable"
materials bend or dent at this point before breaking, "brittle" materials develop cracks that do not
heal, and the material weakens even if it doesn't fall apart at that moment.

This is the short form. Certain metals and plastics "fatigue", which mean they may return elastically, but they can only do so so many times before cracks begin to form. My concerns about high-alloy steels in the original post are based partly in this behavior. (Also in the difficulties of welding or otherwise working them into safe products, but that's another issue.)

Your concern about tests weakening the setup which then fails during actual use basically applies to non-elastic materials. Wood and steel are quite elastic--which means they move quite a ways safely before any deformation becomes lasting damage. When I said to watch the ceiling to see if it flexes, the implication was that if it bends visibly _and doesn't return to it's original position_ then don't use the tie point again! Or the room for that matter. Duh. This would be a dramatic example of non-elastic strain before actual breakage, but even here you would have visible warning before actual strength was lost to the test.

A strong and elastic ceiling may have brittle components; in particular plaster may crack with even very slight deformations of the structure it's hung from. A small plaster crack around a ceiling tie point in a frame house wouldn't worry me, though it might lead me to try to double up the joist overhead, or install a bridging beam to spread the load across two or three of them. If a lot of cracks formed during a test, or a chunk dropped out, it would tell me that there was too much deformation happening, and I would not use that tie point unless I could beef up the structure that was holding it. In a raw attic that's easy; the simplest way is to lay a beam across three (or more) joists, drill the beam to match the hole in the ceiling, and thru-bolt an eyebolt. Use a generous washer under the nut, and cross-drill the bolt above the nut for a cotter pin or safety wire/castle nut combo. I would also nail or screw the beam to the other joists, against the remote chance that someone jumping around and turning might transmit
torque up through to the beam and gradually twist it off the other joists. Call me paranoid, but the
rethreading of the mushroomed bolt-end left me aware that if enough of your bottoms turn left
instead of right while they are being worked on, stuff can get turned up there!

So basically it comes down to the test only being as good as the observations you take during it.
That's why I like to have a couple of hefty friends make the test while I stand back and just watch
the ceiling. If you have to be part of the test weight yourself, consider using a loopof Dacron rope
(nonstretch) or chain to stand in--then use your sense of touch and motion to detect strain. If the
loop isn't stretching, any "give" you feel must be in the structure. You could also set a talking scale, a
lump of modeling clay, a piece of Dresden china...under the loop before the weight comes on, if you don't trust your sense of feel to detect the motion.

Hope this clarifies,

Conrad conradh@efn.org

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TKB - Rip Off Our Videos!

JayDee — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:07:34 GMT

While you still have time to do so, steal our videos --- you have our permission.

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvVTomxB4dc

JD and Dan

Two Knotty Boys

P.S. Site Download Link: http://roperigger.com/code/videos

posted in Advanced Rope Bondage - 2 replies

Local Riggers & Models Featured In Videos!

JayDee — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 12:07:33 GMT

Steve, Lisa and a whole host of others are featured in a series of high quality blip videos covering the shows, players and attendees of Club Enslaved (03/07/08).

Video Link: http://iamfivestar.blip.tv/#747005

Pretty cool stuff!

JD of TKB

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Our YouTube is Back Up - But Severely Gutted

JayDee — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:58:57 GMT

Our YouTube account is back up with the exception of ten videos.

1. Art of TKB
2. Knot Based Harnesses by TKB
3. The Modified Pearls by TKB
4. The Leg Bow by TKB
5. The Star Back Harness by TKB
6. The Ankle Wrap by TKB
7. The Basic Wrap by TKB
8. The Cat’s Paw by TKB
9. The Rope Shackle by TKB
10. Two Knotty Boys in Portland (Day One)

I’ll be posting those videos on Google Video and linking them to our myspace page (www.myspace.com/twoknottyboys) for viewing, soon. For the most part they took down all the actual bondage instructions, with the exception of two (the French Bowline Shackle and the Dragoon Fly Sleeve). Not sure why they took down “Two Knotty Boys in Portland” (Dan and I are just talking to the camera in that one).

Here’s the letter they sent:

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Hi JD,

We were not able to locate your letter in our system, however your livejournal posting was brought to our attention. We appreciate the steps you have taken to comply with the YouTube Community guidelines and the overall compliant nature of your content. Accordingly we have reinstated your account.

As our policies continue to grow and evolve along with the YouTube Community, we will give further consideration to how such content can be appropriately distinguished.

If you have sent in another email regarding this issue, please reply back with any ticket number you may have received in response so that we can close the loop and avoid any confusion or duplicate efforts.

Hope this helps,

Mike
The YouTube Team

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JD ~ Mixed Feelings

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EMS Backboard as Suspension Bondage Rescue Device

Jay — Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:00:48 GMT

EMS Backboard as Suspension Bondage Rescue Device

Copyright 2008 by Jay Wiseman, First Responder Instructor

So the other night this old dog learned a new trick. In the wake of some recent unfortunate incidents, some of the people local to the San Francisco Bay Area BDSM scene who are particularly knowledgeable and experienced regarding suspension bondage organized a one-evening educational event for DM-types regarding how to evaluate a suspension bondage scene. The presenters included Loki, JD of the Two Knotty Boys, Madame Butterfly, and a few others. The well-attended event was held without charge at the SF Citadel. Kudos to all.

It was a very good use of an evening and much good stuff was presented. The strong and widespread sense of concern for and commitment to the well-being of the people in our community was very touching to see. I would definitely like to see more such events, maybe even one every three months or so on a particular topic.

One thing in particular jumped out at me.

Many of us are familiar with the multi-faceted difficulties of getting a person in suspension bondage down onto the ground in a rapid yet controlled manner should a serious difficulty emerge. So here’s a thought: how about bringing the ground (so to speak) up to the suspended person?

How to do this was demonstrated by placing a bottom in suspension bondage, assuming that a serious difficulty had emerged, and having some people bring out an EMS-style long backboard and placing it under the suspended bottom, then lifting the backboard up to support their weight (at least two people are needed for this and – space allowing – four is not too many) while the top and/or DMs work on the more immediate problem – which is often made much easier to deal with once a bit of slack becomes available in the suspension ropes. Once freed, the backboard, with the bottom on it, is then lowered to the ground in a stable, controlled manner where the bottom is given further care as indicated.

It was also pointed out that the backboard should, as a general rule, only be used to accomplish the emergency lowering. Should it become necessary to transport the bottom out of the facility, that task should usually be left to the EMS crews.

Folks, speaking as one who has used backboards on numerous occasions (although admittedly not in a scenario like the one described above), I *like* this idea. Backboards are typically about six feet by 18 inches and rated to at least 400 pounds. The newer ones are made of a very sturdy plastic-like material that, unlike the older wooden backboards, allows for excellent disinfection. Backboards are readily available, not terribly expensive -- quite adequate backboards can be purchased for about $100.00 -- and as the demo showed the learning curve for how to use one in such a situation is quite reasonable. Such a lecture/demo/practice session could quite easily be added to DM-type training programs.

It is obvious that the use of a backboard to support the weight of the bottom can be extremely valuable in the event of a suspension bondage emergency. Given their excellent cost/benefit ratio, it can quite reasonably be said that the time has come for every space where groups of people play and suspension bondage is engaged in to have a backboard discreetly tucked away where, if necessary, it can rapidly be brought into use by properly trained personnel.

Backboards are available from numerous EMS vendors. Here are three:

Galls: www.galls.com

Life Assist: www.life-assist.com

Moore Medical: www.mooremedical.com

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TKB got dumped from YouTube...

JayDee — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 17:40:19 GMT

Terms of Use,

Hi my name’s J.D. [last name]. I’m one half of a decorative rope bondage education duo called “Two Knotty Boys”. For the past six months I’ve been posting instructional videos and video blogs on YouTube. I’ve done everything I can to remain within the terms of use guidelines, having gone as far as to print them out and post them in my workroom. Still, yesterday evening (03/08/08) my account was suspended.

Given my attention to providing positive, educational, and compliant videos, I’m at a loss to understand why the suspension occurred. As irony would have it, one month ago I received an email invitation to the YouTube partner program (an offer I was seriously considering).

Adding to my dismay is the fact that I’ve been a consummate and enthusiastic supporter of YouTube and the YouTube viewer community. I not only post, but routinely view the videos of others and comment upon their content; in the process I’ve developed multiple YouTube friendships. With the suspension of my account, all those friendships have now been severed.

I still consider YouTube a positive and progressive contribution to the new world of online information exchange. I believe in its mission and I support its contribution to community. In turn, I would like to continue providing independently produced content under the YouTube banner.

Thus, I respectfully request the reconsideration of my YouTube suspension.

Thanks,

J.D. [last name]
Two Knotty Boys
twoknottyboys@yahoo.com

User account: http://www.youtube.com/2knottyboys

(Reply to this)(Parent)

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The Winged Rope Suspension!

JayDee — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 21:53:29 GMT

Filmed last night at Club Enslaved, the winged suspension was a performance sponsored by SocialKink.com.

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgyYmTgWuD4

Suspension modeled by Sabina Fox and rigged by JD of Two Knotty

~ TKB

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Rigging rope cat?

patti — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 04:27:36 GMT

OK, it's not bondage but it's rope.

Anyone have pointers to designs for an "authentic" rigging rope cat? I managed to cobble something together tonight by making a handle out of a series of wall knots, but my gut says that I can do better.

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Subs: What is your favourite suspension position and why?

John — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:09:14 GMT

I often ask subs I have suspended what they liked and didn't like about the suspension position I put them in. I've often tried to see if one type of suspension was favoured more than the others. What about subs/suspendees in this tribe? Do you have a favourite position? Why?

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This thread is not about mats

sunshinelove — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 21:10:18 GMT

This thread is not about mats, in any way. Please don't interpret this posting as me wanting to talk about mats. If I happen to bring in experts who happen to talk about mats it is only because it is relevant to the original topic of this discussion, which is not mats.

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How to Make a Rope Blindfold!

JayDee — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:56:42 GMT

How to make a rope blindfold by Two Knotty Boys

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXsQ8u6E0BI

JD of TKB

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How to Tie a Rope Shackle - In Hand!

JayDee — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:42:24 GMT

This video shows another option for tying a rope shackle, which you can tie in your hand, making it ready to slip over any limb. Great for suspensions.

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLDz0Mhr0dQ

Hope You Enjoy!

~ TKB

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Making TKB Book 2 - Weekend One!

JayDee — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 07:59:12 GMT

Shooting the second book in LA with photographer, Ken Marcus, and models Heather Gates and Erin Sinclair by Two Knotty Boys.

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E484N8Je_-A

Hope You Enjoy!

JD & Dan ~ Two Knotty Boys

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Repost - Safe Suspension Bondage for DMs - Feb 27

sweetmanstrongman — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 21:10:44 GMT

Safe Suspension Bondage for DMs: a panel
Demo/Discussion

Start Time: 7:30 PM

Wednesday Feb 27th
Doors: 7:00
Class: 7:30 start. (Downstairs)
No Cost: FREE
IF you are already a DM you should attend this 1st
safety class.

One of the problems with being a DM in a public play
space is that all too often the DM has little
practical understanding of what can go wrong or right
in a heavy bondage scene. Please join Loki and riggers
Two Knotty Boys and Madame Butterfly as they speak
directly to how DMs can assist in suspension scenes.
We won't be doing drills on how to do it, but instead
dissecting the principles of good execution that cross
a variety of styles and how to help rather than get in
the way when an emergency arises. Don't bring rope,
but please bring your EMT shears.

posted in Advanced Rope Bondage - 7 replies

Two new TKB online videos!

JayDee — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 05:31:28 GMT

The following are our two, most recent, video tutorials…

How to Make a Rope Whip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6986p7leWk
How to Wrap a Spreader Bar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxWrtYRP98k

If you’re watching and the videos are helping you out in any way, let us know. At the same time, if you think there’s something we can do to make the videos better, let us know that as well.

For the most part (a few have commented privately) I don’t hear much from people here regarding the videos, so I’m wondering if they’re getting seen or if they contribute in the way I hope they are.

JD of TKB

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Slipped Bowline for a hoist.

Dunter — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 05:14:03 GMT

I will like to share this idea to see whats people think about it.

For years I use the bowline to make a hoist, for me a bowline is one of the most secure knots .
Now I make more and more show, prestation. I begin to test the bowline variation with a slipped whit a handle, to undo my setup or if some thing append is very fast to untie.

Thanks to share some knowledge.

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Tops: What is your favourite suspension frame and why?

John — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:54:38 GMT

Since I had asked bottoms what suspension position they liked I thought I'd start a discussion about frames.

I've used Bamboo tripods, sling frames, swing frames (a stand braced at the sides by triangles or inverted T's with a single cross spar between them) , trees and industrial scaffolding to suspend people from. All have their strengths and weaknesses. My favourite was a box like frame built from steel pipe with and open entry, triangle bracing on three sides and cross spars at intervals across the top. I liked the ability to use multiple points to arrange my bottom in any position and I liked the use of pipe for both the industrial feel and the fact that it let me use hitches to create anchor points wherever I wanted them. I should point out that while I have done high suspension, I prefer to have my bottom where I can get at them (for my own evil purposes rather than simply safety :)

What type of frame do you prefer to use and why?

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Basic Restraint?

Tue, 26 Feb 2008 23:34:17 GMT

I’m a photographer and I’m doing a test shoot tonight. I’m looking to restrain the model and I’ll be tying the knots myself. Can someone show point me in the right direction?

I’d like to try the dragonfly sleeve as it looks good but it might be too complicated to start with. Is there something a bit more basic? I’ll be using 5/16th braided line. Is this okay for a sleeve? Or is it realistically too thick?

Thank you for any comments.

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Are we obsessed with fear?

JayDee — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 01:50:46 GMT

I mean seriously… Look at the time put into posts regarding accidents and the pitfalls of bondage, versus expanding our knowledge, sensual presence and celebration of community.

When it comes to discussions that close the mind, instill fear, restrict self-expression and sensual exchanges we rack up response in the twenties.

I’m interested in safety (start every lesson I’ve ever taught discussing it), but really people… Can we not also give equal time to other aspects of advanced bondage?

Not trying to be pugnacious, just interested in peoples feeling regarding.

posted in Advanced Rope Bondage - 26 replies

Suspension hardware discussion

Nick_Matern — Tue, 25 Dec 2007 02:33:21 GMT

It seems that maybe Steven and I are on to something. Judging from the stuff I see people pull outta toybags, I think maybe we need a good discussion on suspension hardware.

So I'm going to start out by asking if anybody has reliable knowledge on the quality control measures that 'rigging rings' marketed to the BDSM community have been subjected to. My personal opinion is that they're made by somebody who either has a welder in his garage, or like me has access to a metal working shop. I've passed up a bargain on one before just because I don't feel confident about their strength.

Most of the hardware you see people use is not even close to strong enough to giving a healthy safety margin. Snap links, panic snaps, lag threaded eye bolts, and the twisted link chains are not rated or intended to hold anything near a reasonable load. I'm constantly telling people their rigs aren't strong enough, several have ignored me and proved me right.

On top of this, when you buy low grade hardware from a BDSM focused vender, you're paying a 3 to 4 hundred percent markup on crap you can buy at Home Depot or a leather supply house. So not only are we being sold unsafe crap, we're being overcharged for it.

If you're using gear that's actually intended, rated, and approved for fall arrest duty, then you are getting the safety margin you mention. OSHA and MSHA both agree that any fall arrest systems must be able to stop a load of 300 pounds from a 6 foot drop distance. If the combined weight of a worker and the tools they carry is greater than 300 pounds, they're required to use heavier equipment. Climbing gear is built to even more stringent standards, but, like Steven said in the other thread, most of this gear is single use only, once it's stopped a fall you should replace it. On the bright side, we don't do that very often in suspension bondage. I personally only replace my caribiners if they see some sort of trauma or I find shiny prettier ones.

I personally only use rigging hardware that's rated for fall arrest or stronger. I really like industrial heavy lifting hardware because it's always rated very conservatively, usually half to a third of the load it fails at. But if you don't have a cheap source, it's godawful expensive.

Perhaps we should post some pictures here of our rigging hardware along with information on what it is, what load it's rated for, where we got it, and how much it cost? If there's anybody in the Utah area, I can hook you up with some great bargains.

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"It's not bondage until you get the anal hook."

westcounty — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 00:04:27 GMT

http://tiedoutwest.com/2007/12/12/gadgets-stormy

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1000th Subscriber Thanks & Preview!

JayDee — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 05:26:47 GMT

We passed 1000 YouTube subscribers and we’re thanking you all with yet another Two Knotty Boys original piece, the “Rope Whip” --- Coming Soon!

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90T9nrLkXhQ

Thanks again,

JD & Dan
Two Knotty Boys

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A Valentine from me to the advancced rope bondage "communtity."

westcounty — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 08:34:01 GMT

http://tiedoutwest.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/val4.jpg

nipples are pink
and welts might be redder
gear and rope talk is nice
but boobies are better

Come share the love.

http://tiedoutwest.com/2007/12/12/vdayrb

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The Rope Helix by TKB

JayDee — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:04:46 GMT

How to tie the rope helix by Two Knotty Boys.

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJysiMOCTTE

JD of TKB

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Dangers of non-suspension bondage

waldemar — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 07:44:41 GMT

Non-suspension bondage at a New York club leads to near death, likely permanent brain damage.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/02092008/news/regionalnews/hangy_spanky_414490.htm

posted in Advanced Rope Bondage - 18 replies

The "Flower Knot" by TKB (video)

JayDee — Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:29:42 GMT

A cleverly easy knot to tie, “The Flower Knot” (also called the clover leaf knot) is a knot symbolic of prosperity and good luck.

Learn how to tie it less than 2 ½ minutes. (smile)

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chEmKuHpYVs

JD of Two Knotty Boys

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"It's not bondage until you want to get out."

Jay — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:52:40 GMT

Hi all,

I've certainly made no secret of the facts that 1) I'm a switch, and 2) when I bottom, I particularly like prolonged bondage scenes. I recently had a chance to bottom in such a scene, and would like to offer something here for commentary and discussion.

Before I go on, let me mention that I had a competent, knowledgeable top with whom I have a long and good relationship, a safeword, was quite adequately monitored, and at no time did I feel unsafe.

When the bondage first goes on, it feels rather good. It's quite inescapable (she has become *quite* skillful at rope bondage), but kind of comfortable. Kind of fun, actually. Then time passes.

After a while, the bondage doesn't feel comfortable anymore. In fact, it begins to feel a bit uncomfortable. It's awkward. I have trouble moving from side to side. (I'm on a comfortable surface and in a fairly stringent hogtie.)

More time passes. "I wouldn't mind being released from this" crosses my mind for the first time. The ropes, being slightly abrasive, are starting to bite into my skin. I relax. Breathe deeply. I relax some more. The bondage is bearable -- at least for now.

Yet more time passes. I have now passed over into the "this bondage is definitely uncomfortable" zone. I'm starting to squirm, move, and change position more often. (Doing so is difficult, and sometimes tighens one part of my bondage while another slacks a bit; a rueful trade-off.) I check in with my top, making sure she knows that I'm now uncomfortable and also making sure that she's choosing for me to be where I am. She affirms, with beautifully wicked smile, that she is indeed choosing for me to have this experience. Hearing that helps -- emotionally, anyway.

Yet more time passes. How much, I know not. (My top has quite intentionally moved both clocks in the room to places where I cannnot see them.) The bondage itself has become torture. It's freakin' relentless, providing me with not even an instant of respite. I check my physical condition. No part of me is numb. I can move and feel everything. No "bad pain" anywhere. The rope has abraded my skin in various places and it hurts. It remains difficult and awkward to move. I cannot get comfortable. The most I can do, and that with painful difficulty, is trade one uncomfortable position for another. I am *enduring* this. I try to relax. I breathe deeply. Neither helps all that much. I feel my spirit starting to flag. That scares me a bit. How much of this can I endure before I emotionally collapse completely?

Now it's later. Things have definitely become harsh. My breathing has become a bit labored, and there may be a slight coating of sweat on me. In the back of my mind, I know that if I really need to I can stop this with a word, but I absolutely don't want to be released until she chooses to release me. She checks in with me. I let her know about my stress level and condition. She asks me if I want to be released. I give myself a serious think about it, then shake my head. I can go on. I actually want to go on. (Even though one part of my mind is shouting "You fool!" to another part of my mind.) She gives me yet another of those wicked yet beautiful smiles, and strokes my cheek and hair with her wonderfully cool hand. Bliss!

How long have I been like this? There is now no respite from the pain at all. I just simply and helplessly endure, and endure, and endure. It reminds me of those long-distance runs I used to do so very long ago. I just keep on. So what if doing so is painful and very difficult? I do it anyway. She comes close, holds my face in her hands, and looks long and deeply into my somewhat unfocused eyes. I see her beautiful smile. I try to smile back. I think I succeed, kind of.

It's yet still later. "I think you've had enough" I hear her say. I feel her fingers plucking at knots far beyond my ability to reach. Will I be able to deal with being untied? I honestly don't know. Slowly, very slowly, the tension slackens. The ropes start to come away. She gently guides my aching, abraded body back into an unstrained position and continues to untie me. I can move, but only weakly and slowly.

Her hands lift off the last rope. I lay there, face up and utterly spent. She lies beside me. We gently touch. My outer body aches and burns. I know I'll be hitting the pain and stiffness pills. My inner body, and my mind, feel the deepest sense of peace, calm, and relaxation that I have felt in quite some time.

I squeeze her hand and whisper my thanks.

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The "Foot Bender" by TKB

JayDee — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 07:22:11 GMT

For all those who can’t resist tickling or “torturing” an exposed foot, here’s a tie for you. Called the “Foot Bender”, it’s the tie we (TKB) use to eliminate a foot’s ability to bend forward.

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRnqwDwy2co

Hope you enjoy…

JD of TKB

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Bondage injury?

ceruleanskye — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 20:48:45 GMT

I have fairly flexible, maybe longer than normal ligaments and tendons in my shoulders that allow me some extra movement. It is possible that I did not realize that I held a position that wasn't good until it was too late. I don't remember having any shooting or unbearable pain during my last few scenes, and I felt okay afterwards. However, the soreness has persisted in my right shoulder, mainly because I typically sleep on that side of my body, and I can't seem to handle much by the way of behind the back poses lately. Does anyone know about shoulder injuries from bondage and how they are addressed / treated? Thanks!

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Sincrafters in SF this weekend!

Nick_Matern — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 04:55:53 GMT

Hey everybody! The partner and I are all set for this weekend in the Bay Area. I'm going to be making the rounds to all the good leather stores to sell my stuff, but we're planning on Friday evening for playtime, most likely at the Citadel. I'd love to meet some of the people I've been talking to here. So, If any of you happen to be at the Citadel this Friday evening, please come say hi. I'll prolly be wearing my vest with my Journeyman 3 patch. Same one Loki wears. So I'm easy to spot.

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15 Association-sponsored Advanced DM Class Wednesday January 30

Master Daddy Timothy — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 23:05:04 GMT

There will be an advanced D.M. Class at the Citadel on 1-30-08 8pm to10pm. This will not be a Citadel intensive. This class is sponsored by the 15 Association Mens Leather Group and is open to everyone in the Leather community. At this class we will cover overall dungeon safety and power play. We will also have master rigger Mike West discuss Rope safety. This is not D.M ing for Dummies! This will also be an interactive class, so be prepared. Hope to see you all there. This is a free class.

Yours in Leather,
Master Daddy Timothy
Safety Chairman 15 Association.

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How to Tie the Quick Rope Finish by TKB

JayDee — Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:41:21 GMT

There’s a variety of ways to finish the ends of a rope, but one of the fastest ways of doing it is about to be shown.

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzQaQnsiQjc

Firm, clean looking, while still maintaining a narrow girth, the knot of this finish passes with a smooth tug and the blink of an eye.

JD of TKB

P.S. This video marks our 40th on YouTube. If you haven’t already, take advantage of the information the videos contain (especially if you don’t live along the west coast). Much of our information on YouTube will not be shown in our books and a DVD isn’t in the works until next year. Add to this the fact we’ve been kicked off YouTube several times in the past and you have the perfect storm for “Damn I wished I’d looked at those videos while I still could”.

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Can I borrow your stand?

qatana — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:04:32 GMT

I have a performance coming up in the beginning of Feb and they don't have any adequate suspension points so I need to provide my own. Does anyone in the BAy Area have a portable stand I can borrow? I will come and pick up & bring back.
Thanks Mucho!

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New How-To Video Up!

JayDee — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 18:32:37 GMT

Commentated and demonstrated by Dan of Two Knotty Boys, this tutorial cleverly shows how to tie a sliding sheet bend on a fixture.

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql-2Y2yQ-_E

The knot allows adjustable tension along the lead line and releases with a simple tug. If you don’t already know this one, give us a minute and twenty-eight seconds and we’ll show ya!

JD of TKB

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Shibari Shots by TKB (video)

JayDee — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 06:32:44 GMT

Outtakes and shots from a recent Shibari rig (shot last night) by JD of Two Knotty Boys.

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOP-jxCBQ4k

Model Yumi-U and famed Parisian bondage photographer Z. Maitri.

~ TKB

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SFO Jan 27 - Bondage as Foreplay Class

westcounty — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:21:10 GMT

Want to make your rope scenes hot from the very start?

On Jan 27, I'm presenting a special class for intimate couples, "Bondage as Foreplay: 'Let’s Get it On.'" I'll show you (tops *and* bottoms) tips for keeping your play hot, even when things don't go as planned. I'll also show how to avoid common buzzkils and bad habits that can dampen your scenes.

http://tiedoutwest.com/2007/12/12/foreplay-class/

Before the main class, I’ll be leading an optional workshop showing the basic ties we will use in the later class. After the class, I'll be available for extra practice, Q&A and individual coaching. All in all, it's 4 hours of instruction for $70 per couple.

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"Tying it all Together" - Episode 1

JayDee — Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:08:27 GMT

The following video (see link below) is Episode 1 of an ongoing series
we're (TKB) calling, "Tying It All Together". The goal of this series is to
show you how build upon the knowledge gained by reading our book and
watching the videos we've posted on YouTube.

Throughout this series we will be referring to knots and ties
previously dealt with one at a time, but will now reveal their
functionality as building blocks for more elaborate purposeful pieces.

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCG8KifIsgs

Respecfully,

JD of Two Knotty Boys

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Upcoming Two Knotty Boys Workshops!

JayDee — Tue, 08 Jan 2008 05:36:22 GMT

The following are two workshops being held in the San Francisco/Bay Area in the next month. One is an introductory workshop (Sensual) and the other is an advanced workshop (Dominance), still both will contain material never before shown or taught previously (material from the forthcoming second book)!

Come out... We’re really excited to show you the new stuff!

JD & Dan

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TWO KNOTTY BOYS – SENSUAL BONDAGE WORKSHOP!

Day: Thursday, Jan 31st, 7:30pm - 10pm
Loc: 1074 Folsom Street, SF, CA 94103
Reg: OneTasteSF.com or (415) 503-1100

Cos: $25 per person

In this intro workshop, you'll learn how to make struggle-proof wrist bondage, quick and secure bed ties, immobilizing ankle restraints, decorative chest harnesses, and two new ties from our forthcoming second book!

Please bring one 10' and one 30' length of rope (3/8"-5/8" diameter)

This is a hands-on practice-rich workshop.

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TWO KNOTTY BOYS - DOMINANCE BONDAGE WORKSHOP!

Day: Sunday, February 3rd, 2 pm – 5 pm (1:30 doors)
Loc: 1277 Mission St (at 9th St.), SF, CA 94103
Reg: No registration – Walk-ins Only
Cos: $30 per person.

All are welcome, but partners recommended.

Learn more than half a dozen bondage techniques for using rope to restrain, control or train your submissive. You'll learn skills including, rope bit and ball gags, dynamic full-access hog ties, Japanese-style chest harnesses, scene transitions, aggressive exchanges and take downs!

PLUS: Four new Dominance Ties from our forthcoming second book!

Please bring one 10' and one 50' length of rope (3/8"-5/8" diameter)

This is a hands-on, practice-rich workshop.

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I need to post this sex toy I am so sorry. best sex toy ever!

UncleFishbits — Mon, 07 Jan 2008 20:24:06 GMT

http://jezebel.com/gossip/.gross.-is-fucking-a-foot%27-.beyond-gross.%7C-the-joke-don-made-after-the-jump%27/most-disturbing-sex-toy-ever-267289.php

new level of foot fetish I hadn't previously been aware of. My "fuck straight through the bottom of the foot" fetishes are usually thwarted by massive tendon and muscle groupings, but I guess I shouldn't do it for real, eh?

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Food, Conversation, Bodies and Rope in Seattle Jan 5-6

MYu — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 01:19:12 GMT

Hello friends, just in case anyone is in the NW, or know someone who might be interested,
I will be giving a weekend of classes in Seattle on
January 5-6. at the Center for Sex Positive Culture, aka The Wet Spot.

http://sexpositiveculture.org/.

This event is sponsored by Max.
I will be presenting in depth "Body Mechanics evaluation techniques
and Bottom Assesment protocol" aka How to know your Bottom's body well and have fun doing it. This will include a special class on
suspension and its possible effects on the body and Qi of the Bottom.
This will be a focused and concise analysis of different suspensions
done "on the spot" by Max and explained by me. This classes is
essential for anyone doing suspensions.
Also included will be a class on Hojo style arm binders and their fast and firm application techniques.
Check out his site for details.

http://www.bondagelessons.com/

We will also be doing a special evening with socializing and
conversation with a focus on the possible futures and development of
the trends in rope bondage and its potential for Power, Healing and
Beauty.
This will be a delicious catered Sushi dinner with amazing people.
I am looking forward to this very much. We have already had a great
response. Check link below for more info.

http://tinyurl.com/32y8js

Write me for any other questions and make sure to keep an eye out on the blog. I have some great things planned for there after the New Year.

http://jadegate.blogspot.com/

Regards, Mark Yu

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"Pre-release" copies of my new DVD available

Jay — Wed, 26 Dec 2007 19:51:03 GMT

Hi all,

Well, saints be praised, my new rope bondage how-to DVD is *finally* ready for release. (I say *finally* because the guy who was supposed to handle the post-production editing *completely fucking flaked* on me, which led to my having to do the video editing myself, thus delaying the release by about six months. Gawdonly knows how much that asshole cost me in lost sales.)

Anyway, the new DVD now basically done, and actually I'm rather proud of it.

It's based on my "Arm Harnesses For Every Body" workshop and primarily addresses itself to how to apply a restraining arm harness to pretty much anyone, no matter what body size they have. Even if I do say so myself, it's a rather nifty course in highly usable, very effective basic rope bondage for non-suspension, bedroom-type scenes.

The DVD table of contents is basically as follows:

Introduction: overview of bdsm principles and safety measures.
Chapter One: basics about ropes and knots.
Chapter Two: three widely usable single-limb cuffs.
Chapter Three: two widely usable double-limb cuffs.
Chapter Four: Arm harnesses -- a total of nine, including three for people who can't cross their wrists behind their back, and six for people who can, including two Japanese-type harnesses and the "bondage bra" harness.
Chapter Five: How to extend the arm harnesses into hogties.
Chapter Six: Bloopers and out-takes.

All techniques are shown repeatedly and in close-up.
Total running time is almost exactly two hours.

While I'm in the process of making the "main" DVD widely available, I have about 20 copies of a "version 0.9" pre-release copy on hand. These contain some minor editing issues which were fixed in a later version, but the actual content is just fine. Given that these are highly unique items, I thought I'd give you yardbirds first crack at them. When they're gone, they're gone. (I'm only making this offer here and in Yahoo's group on Adult Rope Art.)

So, if you're interesting in picking up a copy of a very rare item, please drop me a line at jaywiseman@yahoo.com. (Also please let me know if you'd like a copy of the "regular" DVD as well.)

Best regards to all,

Jay

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Suspension Rings, plain vs. triskelion, and where can you get them.

SteveTorque — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:15:10 GMT

I've seen the simple, plain round suspension ring, and I know Twisted Monk sells them.

However I've also seen the Triskelion Ring design for a suspension ring.

1. Anybody have any opinions about using one vs. the other?

2. Anybody know where to buy the Triskelion design?

Thanks, Steve.

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Mannequins?

DukeSF — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:56:58 GMT

I had a question for the rope fetishist of the world. I don't always have a human body available or time to attend one of the peer workshops to practice my rigging and was wondering if anyone knew of a place in the San Francisco Bay Area to purchase or shop for full size mannequins?

Thank you in advance for your morsels of wisdom

Duke

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Looking for instructions on the decorative knots.

Charles — Sun, 16 Dec 2007 01:22:20 GMT

I work with metal and chains rather than rope. I'm trying to design a chain net dress which will incorporate/mimic the decorative knots and harness ties that I've observed in some of the photos posted here. I've made two chain net dresses for women I've known, but they were very simple in design and I would like to get more decorative with the next. Any help the folks here can give me would be greatly appreciated.

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Help me find a photo

patti — Sat, 08 Dec 2007 04:13:55 GMT

This isn't the bets day to be asking this, but oh well.

A couple of years ago, one of the kinky tribes had an amusing photo-- a soy sauce bottle wrapped with a shibari-style harness. I wanted to show someone this picture today, and after about half an hour of hunting I've given up. I can't find it. I'm pretty sure it was the tribe's main photo, at least for a while.

Does this ring a bell? Is it still on the site, and if so where?

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SF CA Dec 11 - Tight Ties Class at Stormy Leather

westcounty — Sun, 02 Dec 2007 02:30:38 GMT

For some people, there is nothing more exquisite than the feeling of binding or being bound extremely tightly.

This class explores the mental and physical aspects of very tight bondage and allows students to see first hand why hemp rope is well suited for this purpose. The class will cover good and bad areas for tight body wraps as well as techniques for cinching to a pole, post, or chair.

http://tiedoutwest.com/2007/11/12/dec-11-tighter/

http://www.stormyleather.com/store.asp

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Subs for rope bondage classes

ceruleanskye — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:51:23 GMT

Just out of curiosity, is there ever a need for subs to come to class to participate as a demo bottom? I thought it might be a good way for me to become more familiar with rope and lend a hand if that area is unfilled need.

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Jay Wiseman Mentoring Quote?

RopeAngel — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:49:49 GMT

Can someone please help? I am searching for Jay Wiseman's tongue-in-cheek "rules of
mentoring", which included something to the effect that the first person to volunteer to be a mentor is the one least likely to be suitable for the job. I think it was buried in a thread about an entirely different topic, and I think it was on this list, but after wearing out Google I can't find it. Many thanks.

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12/6 Registration Opens for SF Rope Dojo Jan 19-20

Midori — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 05:07:59 GMT

The next Rope Bondage Dojo (R) will be held in San Francisco on Jan 19-20.
Registration opens Thursday, December 6th at noon, Pacific Time at
http://www.RopeDojo.com

Space is limited to 30 students.
Pre-requisites:
- 18 years or older
- Able to tie shoe laces
- Curiosity and willingness to learn in an focused and information-packed
environment

Do let me know if you have any questions!
(The site also has an FAQ you'll find helpful.)

Thanks!

Midori

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Turkey Bondage Dojo

sunshinelove — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 18:37:27 GMT

Holy Meleagris, Batman! Here I was wishing for some sort of practice dummy. Enter this twisted link:

www.flickr.com/photos/21109787@N06/

to go straight to the slide show:

www.flickr.com/photos/pur...2050668367/

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The Jade Gate Blog

MYu — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:18:49 GMT

I have a new blog for The Jade Gate. I also have a continuing thread about bondage problems if that is your kink. Mostly Art, Music and more! Check it out.

http://jadegate.blogspot.com/

regards, Mark Yu

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Two Knotty Boys "A Taste of Sex" Interview - Part Two!

JayDee — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:33:27 GMT

The second part (see blog for part one) of Dan and my two part interview with Beth Crittenden of “A Taste of Sex” (Podcast). I’m really happy with how both parts went.

Still, part two has lot’s of new insights and information about why Dan and I don’t (for the most part) teach traditional Shibari, student moments that inspired us and more...

Audio Link: http://gsi.pod-ad.com/content/TOS_GuestSpeaker_020_2KnottyBoys.mp3

When time permits, take a listen, you won’t be disappointed!

Take care,

JD ~ of Two Knotty Boys

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am I missing something?

qatana — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:39:24 GMT

When I asked the guy where the bondage was he called me an asshole. Maybe he really doesn't want to sell them...
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/ats/459057903.html

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The proximate incident

Jay — Sat, 06 Oct 2007 16:22:36 GMT

Hi all,

First, welcome back.

Second, while I wasn't up for discussing the recent local incident specifically in the "Mats?" thread, I'm certainly open to it being discussed more generally in this Tribe (and to "having a discussion" in general), so I'm creating this thread with the _suggestion_ that people post about it here. (Just please leave ad hominem remarks out. Those will be deleted and the poster warned.) Also, I would _prefer_ that the specific people involved _not_ be identified. (I'd like to see their privacy respected, and I don't see how naming them could contribute to the discussion in a postive way.)

So, as to the incident itself...here is my understanding of what happened. (I wasn't there.)

a. The incident happened at PE about four weeks ago (possibly on a Friday night).

b. A man (an experienced rigger), had a woman in suspension bondage. The scene had been going on for "a while" and he now had her in a horizontal, face-down hogtie suspension. Exact height unknown, but I gather that she was suspended approximately waist high.

c. The overhead attachment point somehow became detached from the overhead.

d. As a result of this detachment, she immediately fell to the bare concrete floor below, breaking her jaw in several places and shattering several teeth.

Anybody with anything useful to add to the above is welcome to do so.

Oh, just FYI, since then there has been a second incident (this one in Chicago), although not nearly as injurious as this one. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AdultRopeARt/message/19792 (You may need to be a member of the Adult Rope Art group -- which would not be a bad thing at all -- to view it.)

Best regards to all,

Jay

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Get your tickets now! Yerba Buena Center for the Arts....

Thu, 04 Oct 2007 04:57:18 GMT

Presents:

US PREMIERE!

Bakushi: The Incredible Lives of Rope-Masters (2007, 94 min, 35mm).

by Ryuichi Hiroki

Fri, Oct 19 & Sat, Oct 20, 7:30 pm
$8 regular
$6 seniors, students & teachers
$6 YBCA Members

From one of Japan’s most celebrated independent filmmakers. This film quietly explores the “art of erotic bondage” of female models by sadomasochistic masters who have turned rope-knotting into fine art. The centuries-old game of bondage and ritual chastising exists in several cultures, but the ceremonial detail and the stunning precision is as Japanese as flower arranging and pouring tea.

PLEASE NOTE : Film contains extreme sexual imagery and is intended only for adult viewers interested in the subject matter.

http://www.ybca.org/tickets/production.aspx?performanceNumber=4443

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Just in case

Jay — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:43:23 GMT

Hi all,

Well, I certainly don't know why Tribe has been down so often lately, and hopefully it's just a passing thing, but just in case this place does go dark, you might want to make note of the following:

1. I moderate the (mostly dormant at the moment) Advanced Rope Bondage discussion group on www.free-association.net.

2. There is the adult rope art Yahoo group, which is an excellent group to belong to in any event. It can be reached at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AdultRopeARt/

3. My main email address is jaywiseman@yahoo.com

Best,

Jay -- who is doing some research on beds of nails

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cleaning hemp rope

subbygirl — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 18:00:29 GMT

for those of you that use hemp, how do you clean it? can it laundered in the washing machine? maybe in a lingerie bag or something? or do you hand wash it? any suggestions would be appreciated =]

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Beds of Nails? If so, what type?

westcounty — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:58:10 GMT

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/10/11/bondage.death.ap/index.html

In the wake of the recent death-producing saran wap mishap, one person is looking into the idea of requiring the placing of beds of nails under people who are in encasement bondage.

So, *assuming* that this would be a good idea (and I acknowledge that this is a very debatable issue, but please let's not go there just now), it raises the question: what sort of nails should be used?

Maybe the yogis, circus-types, and suchlike know the details of matters nail-ish.

Best,

Mike

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Yet another "in bondage and alone" death

Jay — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:46:05 GMT

Hi all,

I've been teaching for years that the single most common cause of BDSM-related fatalities is being in bondage and alone. Below is yet another data point in support of that teaching.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/10/11/bondage.death.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

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How to reduce suspension-related injuries?

patti — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 20:45:02 GMT

The previous thread basically started with a conclusion and worked backward from there, and at this point it's generating more heat than light. I think it would be better to start from scratch. There's an implicit assumption in here that suspension-related injuries are frequent and/or severe enough to merit some sort of harm reduction attention.

How common are suspension-related injuries? How severe are they?

What are the most common causes of suspension-related injuries?

Given the answers to the above questions, what changes would be most effective in reducing injuries?

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Oct 9 (Tue) Intro to Japanese Rope Bondage at Stormy Leather

westcounty — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 00:12:25 GMT

I'm teaching my intro class tomorrow night in SF! Come early for a cool 20% off anything in the store.

M

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Who: Mike West
What: Intro to Japanese Rope Bondage
Where: Stormy Leather, 1158 Howard St. in San Francisco
When: Tuesday, October 9th, at 7:30 p.m.
Why: Learn sexy and functional bondage techniques!
How: Admission is $20, rope is available for loan or purchase, and Mike will take care of the rest!

Do you love the look and feel of Japanese rope bondage? Layers of thin rope pressing into skin, asymmetrical poses, decorative wrapping... What does it take to get started? Mike West recommends the amazing Twisted Monk Hemp Rope Starter Kit, now available at Stormy Leather. Together with his Introduction to Japanese Rope Bondage workshop, it will get you well on your way to ties that will enhance your bedroom and dungeon fun.

In this hands-on workshop, Mike will provide you with the basic building blocks that give Japanese bondage its distinctive look; he'll also explain why these techniques are so well suited to natural fiber rope. Mike will show you how to combine these basic techniques in order to tie an elegant, sexy, and functional hogtie. You'll also be given the chance to see these same basic components used to tie a subject in full suspension (demonstration only).

There's no need to have any experience with ropework as Mike will teach you the only two knots you need! Singles, couples and small groups are welcome. Singles must be willing to both tie and be tied, so come prepared to make some new friends...

All attendants will receive 20% off all purchases made between 7:00 p.m. and the class's start at 7:30, so arrive a little early, do a little shopping, then join us for this fantastic workshop! Email RSVPs (appreciated but not necessary) or questions to Kirsten@stormyleather.com.

**Please do not bring cotton or synthetic fiber rope; the Twisted Monk hemp rope kits will be available at the discounted rate, and Mike will have extra rope for those in need.

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Why Lifeboats Are Unnecessary On Modern Ships

Jay — Fri, 05 Oct 2007 02:29:23 GMT

Why Lifeboats are Unnecessary on Modern Ships

by Jay Wiseman, Deputy Chief, Public Affairs Division, White Star Line

March 15, 1912.

Dear Editor:

We are about to enter a shining new era in oceanic transportation. Next month, White Star Line's newest ship, RMS Titanic, will make its maiden voyage from the UK to New York City.

This new ship, about which I confess that we at White Star Line all feel enormously proud, represents the very latest and most modern theories of ship design and construction. Of course, passenger safety is our number-one concern at the White Star Line, and as I will describe, this new vessel ushers in a whole new level of passenger safety. RMS Titanic will also set the new standard in passenger luxury, speed, and stylishness. Excitement about and enthusiasm for the upcoming maiden voyage of our new pride and joy is unprecedented, both within the company itself and also out among the general public. Even the Royals have wished us Godspeed.

Of course, there are always those who will seek reason to doubt. Some no doubt well-meaning persons (none of whom are qualified nautical experts, and at least one of whom is a solicitor) have pointed out that there are not enough lifeboats aboard our most modern vessel to contain all passengers and crew. While, at least in the abstract, this might be a cause for concern. The actual reality is quite different. Because we at White Star Line value all sources of input, this missive is written to address their concerns (to the extent that those concerns are rational) and to put them decisively to rest.

Modern regulations require 16 lifeboats for a vessel in Titanic's class, however we at White Star Lines have never felt that we properly served our customers by merely complying with bare minimum legal requirements. For this reason, we have actually installed 20 lifeboats on the vessel, thus on our own initiative and at our own expense we have already substantially exceeding the minimum required.

But, you see, the actual truth is that the Titanic would be quite safe even if it carried zero lifeboats. In fact, there are good and rational reasons to believe that lifeboats actually cause more problems than they resolve. I understand completely that such a statement may surprise some readers. Let me explain.

Now I know that some readers may be thinking, "But Sir, the ship is made of iron and steel, and it's on the water. Surely there is therefore at least some possibility that it could sink, and having adequate lifeboats must therefore be a necessity." In flights of fantasy, this might possibly be true. However in actual reality, and please pardon me if I seem undiplomatic, it is not.

First, the vessel has been designed from its very earliest stages to be unsinkable, and built with nothing less than absolutely first class materials. This is because the top ship designers and makers in the world have given us a vessel that it is actually subdivided into numerous subcompartments. More than half of these subcompartments ("mini-ships" if you will) would have to be compromised for "something unfortunate" to become a possibility, and never in the history of nautical affairs has a ship ever sustained such damage. Additionally, should a few individual compartments take in water, such water would be readily expelled by the powerful pumps present in all compartments.

Second, the ship is both commanded and crewed by the very cream of civilian nautical talent. Indeed, the cumulative experience of our extremely able officers and crew is meaningfully measured in terms of centuries. Further, many of our seasoned sailors have coped with various emergencies at sea, and all feel unprecedented confidence regarding the ship's design and construction. As one junior officer put it, "The most dangerous part of the voyage for me will be the carriage ride from my house to the dock. After that, it will all be rather boring actually."

Third, all components of the ship, both individually and in connection with each other, have been tested for safety to an unprecedented degree and by use of the very latest equipment. Indeed, we can say that more funds were spent on safety inspections regarding the construction and launching of this wonderful new ship than were spent for any other ship that has ever before sailed. Every safety inspector, both in our employ and in government service, has unreservedly affirmed this ship's soundness, both in terms of exceeding all specified safety standards and in pure quality of construction.

Fourth, while at sea the RMS Titanic will enjoy an unprecedented new level of communication with other ships. The very latest wireless radios have been installed and thoroughly checked. Should something hazardous be spotted by other ships, our ship will be notified promptly. All White Star Line vessels, of course, do the same for other ships. It's part of the brotherhood of the sea. Also, the ocean is a surprisingly busy place, especially in the major shipping lanes within which our new vessel will be traveling. In the extraordinarily unlikely event that all on-board wireless radios should fail, our vessel contains more than adequate flares, signal lights, and other devices to summon aid in a timely manner. Should the ship need to be evacuated for any reason, nearby ships could most certainly be brought alongside to accomplish the transfer in a quite orderly and timely manner. (That said, given our vessel's magnificent construction, it is infinitely more likely that RMS Titanic will sail to the rescue of other vessels rather than itself be in need of rescue.)

Fifth, while at sea, the crew will maintain absolutely top levels of surveillance of both the ship itself and the surrounding sea. (Did you know that a sailor in a typical crow's nest and equipped with proper binoculars, which our ship of course carries in abundance, can see for a distance of over twenty nautical miles?) In the extremely unlikely event that anything was encountered at sea which was large enough to pose any significant concern, our hawk-eyed sailors would spot it long, long before it could draw troublesomely near. Steering an avoidance course would be a trivial matter and quite easily accomplished.

Given all of the above, all of our certified nautical experts agree, and all rational people concur, that lifeboats are, in this modern age of shipping, a relic of yesteryear.

Modern design, modern manufacturing, modern training, modern inspections, modern equipment, modern nautical practices, and modern nautical realities have made the presence of lifeboats on passenger liners not only completely unnecessary but, as I will now conclusively show, actually and affirmatively hazardous.

Let me now discuss the often unappreciated highly troublesome nature of lifeboats themselves.

First, lifeboats are heavy. Each one weighs several hundred pounds, and in total their weight is several tons. Such tonnage becomes a burden that the ship must literally shoulder. The additional coal that the ship must necessarily carry to propel the cumulative excess tonnage of these redundant and unnecessary lifeboats adds to the cost of the voyage -- a cost which, as a business necessity, must be passed along to our wonderful passengers. Therefore dispensing with lifeboats -- which are, as scientifically and conclusively proven above, no longer necessary -- helps us keep our prices competitive. (Our competitors do keep us on our toes, you know.)

Second, lifeboats may create a false sense of security. While our captain has a long history of the highest and most professional nautical judgment, a lesser captain might choose to enter waters that his vessel is unsuited for on the highly mistaken and illogical theory that, "Well, if we get into trouble, we can always take to the lifeboats. Therefore it's safe for us to proceed on course." Such a skipper would do far better to not have the false sense of security often provided by lifeboats, although in truth there admittedly might remain a small but valid role for lifeboats on older, less intelligently designed and built, ships.

Third, lifeboats take up valuable space better served for other purposes. Any ship, even RMS Titanic, has an upper limit to its size. Therefore every single cubic foot of available space on a ship deserves careful consideration as to how it should be most usefully occupied. Our passengers should not be inconvenienced by having to make their way around the space occupied by devices known by experts to not be necessary. Also, the needless presence of lifeboats spoil those wonderful sea views our passengers so very much enjoy, as well as needlessly cluttering the otherwise extremely clean lines of our ship. Esthetics do matter, you know.

Fourth, lifeboats are a hygiene problem. While at White Star Lines we pride ourselves on having the cleanest ships at sea, lifeboats are known hiding spots for vermin of various types. Also, lifeboats are a known and favorite hiding place for stowaways. To adequately inspect, maintain, and clean these questionable items takes up valuable crew time. This reduces a given seaman's time available for doing genuinely necessary work and therefore necessitates the hiring of additional crew -- at, again, additional cost to our customers. Ships are therefore cleaner and more hygienic without lifeboats.

Fifth, lifeboats do not and cannot prevent all shipwreck-related loss of life. Even if all of a ship's lifeboats could be loaded and launched efficiently (a highly questionable concept as I'll discuss presently), they cannot prevent all forms of grief. Indeed, given the notorious harshness and coldness of the North Atlantic (where our new ship is scheduled to spend almost all of its time), persons in lifeboats could be expected to survive only a few additional hours. Also, such small boats are not capable of themselves being adequately navigated beyond a very limited distance. Certainly not far enough to make landfall on their own unless the land was so close as to make the boats themselves unnecessary. Given these literally cold realities, it's more rational and, indeed, even humane to conclude that lifeboats would merely prolong the suffering of those few persons who might make use of them.

Sixth, the launching of lifeboats in an actual emergency could actually increase, rather than decrease, the number of lives lost. Have you ever seen a lifeboat launched? Such a task, even under the calmest conditions, takes substantial professional seafaring skill and is fraught with challenges. Complications such as collapse and jamming are far from unheard of. Should the launching of lifeboats be attempted under the circumstances of a nautical emergency, the possible complications are almost too chilling to bear thinking about.

Imagine that it's dark, and cold, and the ship's decks are uneven. (In a ship that is listing to one side, fully half of the lifeboats will therefore be unusable. Do the nautical non-experts among us therefore recommend that each ship therefore carry double the number of needed boats? Such a ship would be so heavy and unwieldy that it could not leave the dock, and passenger liners would sink not under the sea, but rather under bureaucratic regulation run amok.)

Panicked passengers would swarm towards the lifeboats, not only dangerously overcrowding the boats (thus becoming a hazard!) but also interfering with the ability of the crew to launch the boats properly. Imagine the poor passengers falling from or -- God forbid! -- even being pushed from the boats or the ship itself by frantic, animalistic others. (We must sadly acknowledge that the primitive beast will emerge from within at such times, especially among those of lesser breeding.) Further, what lifeboats that might actually be launched would undoubtedly be swamped by those swimming in the sea.

How much better, how much safer (and how much warmer and more comfortable!), to wait in a civilized and safe manner, and perhaps enjoying a spot of tea to pass the time, to be evacuated to the other ships which will undoubtedly arrive long before any genuine hazard would become an even vaguely realistic possibility. I'll grant that a few small boats would be needed to ferry the passengers to safety, but beyond that very small number no rational case can be made.

In summary, and as I have shown, the new era is now upon us, and myriad modern advances require modern adaptation. The time for irrational nay-saying is past, and the naysayers must accept this -- which I am sure that they will do with good grace. After all, they're not bad people, but merely uninformed, a bit misguided, and over-cautious. I invite them to book passage and see for themselves how needless their concerns actually are.

Given all of the above, all sensible people agree with the virtually unanimous opinion among recognized experts that there is absolutely no rational need for lifeboats on passenger liners in this shining new twentieth century world.

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